1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,699 Conversations with Jacque & Roxanne April 2010 Bogota Colombia 2 00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:05,800 Is South America a good place to start? 3 00:00:05,950 --> 00:00:08,317 What about the "socialist" countries? 4 00:00:08,473 --> 00:00:11,637 Actually, I think too, one of the greatest possibilities we have 5 00:00:11,781 --> 00:00:14,476 is in the South American countries 6 00:00:14,620 --> 00:00:19,056 with Ecuador, Chavez, you know, in Bolivia 7 00:00:19,212 --> 00:00:21,704 and Cuba, all those progressive countries. 8 00:00:21,860 --> 00:00:24,960 We would love to make a presentation to the presidents 9 00:00:25,110 --> 00:00:27,650 of all those countries because they're kind of grappling with 10 00:00:27,788 --> 00:00:31,740 what to do next, where to go. They're thinking in terms of socialism 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,710 but they're beginning to share resources and things together. 12 00:00:34,850 --> 00:00:38,815 And maybe if we could have some kind of contact with them 13 00:00:38,965 --> 00:00:42,746 and propose a first city where we do research 14 00:00:42,896 --> 00:00:44,900 we develop Jacque's products 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,205 and the benefits go to all those countries who participated. 16 00:00:48,348 --> 00:00:51,355 There might be more chance with those countries than in the others. 17 00:00:51,511 --> 00:00:53,701 - Let me put it this way. I went... 18 00:00:53,845 --> 00:00:58,210 We were friends with Cuba in America. Castro came here. 19 00:00:58,366 --> 00:01:02,449 He asked for money to help change things. The US turned him down. 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,829 When I got to Cuba I said I would like to see Fidel. 21 00:01:06,979 --> 00:01:11,480 So the police arrested me right away. They looked through my suitcases 22 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:15,684 and there were nothing but drawings for Fidel, so they let me go. 23 00:01:15,834 --> 00:01:18,306 And I asked "Where is Fidel?" They said 24 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:21,398 "He's a couple of hundred miles, cutting sugar cane 25 00:01:21,542 --> 00:01:24,759 with the workers." So he was trying to be 'one of the boys'. 26 00:01:24,938 --> 00:01:29,551 So I figured: Gee, I only had 600 bucks when I got to Cuba. 27 00:01:29,739 --> 00:01:34,642 That was all I had to spend so I went to the University of Havana 28 00:01:34,786 --> 00:01:38,137 and I said I'd like to talk to the technicians there. 29 00:01:38,287 --> 00:01:42,744 They said "Okay". So they set up a meeting with technicians 30 00:01:42,894 --> 00:01:47,196 and they said to me first in their Spanish-American accent: 31 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:50,540 "Mr. Fresco, we don't have any money. 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,760 The US has to do all these wonderful things that you have in mind." 33 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:58,282 So I said "You don't need money. You jack up a car 34 00:01:58,426 --> 00:02:03,174 and put a belt on the rear wheel. That'll process your sugar cane 35 00:02:03,318 --> 00:02:07,362 and you could do that with 50 cars and process machinery." 36 00:02:07,512 --> 00:02:10,866 "Oh, Mr. Fresco! You have to see Fidel." 37 00:02:11,016 --> 00:02:14,655 I said "Look, I have no power. I'd like to see Fidel." 38 00:02:14,805 --> 00:02:17,481 So they said "I want to show you what we do." 39 00:02:17,625 --> 00:02:20,700 So they had a bunch of guys carrying bananas down the hill. 40 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:23,900 So I said: "If you build a clothes line and hang the bananas up 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,429 they'll come down automatically while the boxes go up." 42 00:02:27,585 --> 00:02:29,856 "Oh, you have to see Fidel!" 43 00:02:29,999 --> 00:02:33,575 What can I do with that? I stayed there until my money ran out. 44 00:02:33,725 --> 00:02:36,224 I had to come back. I never saw Fidel. 45 00:02:36,367 --> 00:02:38,999 So, he didn't know what to do, Castro. 46 00:02:39,149 --> 00:02:44,210 Castro was a revolutionary, like Che Guevara was a doctor. 47 00:02:44,350 --> 00:02:47,835 He tried to help people to the best of his ability. 48 00:02:47,985 --> 00:02:50,260 But US was gunning for him. 49 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,395 So I would say that communism 50 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:55,785 isn't radical enough for the world today. 51 00:02:55,929 --> 00:02:57,779 It was good a hundred years ago. 52 00:02:57,927 --> 00:02:59,547 Find out more 53 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:02,440 www.thevenusproject.com www.thezeitgeistmovement.com 54 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:05,900 The time is now.