Conversations with Jacque & Roxanne April 2010 Bogota Colombia
Is South America a good place to start?
What about the "socialist" countries?
Actually, I think too, one of the greatest possibilities we have
is in the South American countries
with Ecuador, Chavez, you know, in Bolivia
and Cuba, all those progressive countries.
We would love to make a presentation to the presidents
of all those countries because they're kind of grappling with
what to do next, where to go. They're thinking in terms of socialism
but they're beginning to share resources and things together.
And maybe if we could have some kind of contact with them
and propose a first city where we do research
we develop Jacque's products
and the benefits go to all those countries who participated.
There might be more chance with those countries than in the others.
- Let me put it this way. I went...
We were friends with Cuba in America. Castro came here.
He asked for money to help change things. The US turned him down.
When I got to Cuba I said I would like to see Fidel.
So the police arrested me right away. They looked through my suitcases
and there were nothing but drawings for Fidel, so they let me go.
And I asked "Where is Fidel?" They said
"He's a couple of hundred miles, cutting sugar cane
with the workers." So he was trying to be 'one of the boys'.
So I figured: Gee, I only had 600 bucks when I got to Cuba.
That was all I had to spend so I went to the University of Havana
and I said I'd like to talk to the technicians there.
They said "Okay". So they set up a meeting with technicians
and they said to me first in their Spanish-American accent:
"Mr. Fresco, we don't have any money.
The US has to do all these wonderful things that you have in mind."
So I said "You don't need money. You jack up a car
and put a belt on the rear wheel. That'll process your sugar cane
and you could do that with 50 cars and process machinery."
"Oh, Mr. Fresco! You have to see Fidel."
I said "Look, I have no power. I'd like to see Fidel."
So they said "I want to show you what we do."
So they had a bunch of guys carrying bananas down the hill.
So I said: "If you build a clothes line and hang the bananas up
they'll come down automatically while the boxes go up."
"Oh, you have to see Fidel!"
What can I do with that? I stayed there until my money ran out.
I had to come back. I never saw Fidel.
So, he didn't know what to do, Castro.
Castro was a revolutionary, like Che Guevara was a doctor.
He tried to help people to the best of his ability.
But US was gunning for him.
So I would say that communism
isn't radical enough for the world today.
It was good a hundred years ago.
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